Summary
As I said in previously, back then high school was not seen as important and that most teenagers went to work. Mostly if the teenagers did go to school it would be the woman because they needed school to become teachers in the future. And the boys would usually stay with their fathers to go work for the rest of the family. High school and college were not exactly order the way it is today. Later on when the teenagers did have to go to school the classes that the girls had to take were different from what the boys had to take. Later on in the next chapter that is called " Dancing Daughters" talks more so how more so moderate teens are too sexual active and how they get some of these influences from the movies that come out that talk about sex and relationships with others. This all comes back to these children growing up way to fast and it exactly the reason as to why they are they way they are.
Quote: "Yet, thinking about the young almost as a separate species segregates adolescents and sets them up as a target for social engineering " ( Hine 176)
Reaction: When Hine says this I could understand that teenagers are different from younger kids and adults but the fact that there is some type of separation between the age difference to me I find crazy. Yet, I understand one is more likely to be around their on age groups. However, the truth is that sadly teeangers are also judged just because they are a teenager. They are automatically are suppose to be up to something mad, its as if parents and other adults were not teenagers once. Or as if they already expect them to make their younger "stupid" mistakes because of their age.
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
The Rise And Fall Of The American Teenager (109 - 150)
Summmary
In what I've read the other talks about how the parents are depending on the children. Mostly, it talks about how the parents are depending on their kids financially whether it be with having to work extra to keep their families from suffering and barely making it or it being the main provider in the family because the parents are too wake to do so. This in the end are making teens grow up way too fast as to having to work to support the rest of their family at such a young age. And the book also talks about how some teens had to work because some jobs for example would not give a man a chance at working unless they had a son too take lady take their place or even sometimes they would higher a younger teen before they would a older adult. Back then schooling was not seen as important for teenagers, it was more of a second choice to working opposed to being the first how it is now.
Quote: "Nevertheless, some qualities of these young people of the frontier-their love of mobility, their belif that they were entitled to have a good time, their sudden shifts from dependence to maturity and back-became part of that creature we know as a teenager" (Hine 137)
Reaction: As soon as I read this , I soon thought that this was the exactly true about teens. They were not at all fully adults nor was they kids but, to me they are a mixture of both. They are right in between going back and forth between the two. They are complicated for this very reason, because some things they do and thnk are similar to adults however, its sometimes like a child too. They go back and fourth between the two.
In what I've read the other talks about how the parents are depending on the children. Mostly, it talks about how the parents are depending on their kids financially whether it be with having to work extra to keep their families from suffering and barely making it or it being the main provider in the family because the parents are too wake to do so. This in the end are making teens grow up way too fast as to having to work to support the rest of their family at such a young age. And the book also talks about how some teens had to work because some jobs for example would not give a man a chance at working unless they had a son too take lady take their place or even sometimes they would higher a younger teen before they would a older adult. Back then schooling was not seen as important for teenagers, it was more of a second choice to working opposed to being the first how it is now.
Quote: "Nevertheless, some qualities of these young people of the frontier-their love of mobility, their belif that they were entitled to have a good time, their sudden shifts from dependence to maturity and back-became part of that creature we know as a teenager" (Hine 137)
Reaction: As soon as I read this , I soon thought that this was the exactly true about teens. They were not at all fully adults nor was they kids but, to me they are a mixture of both. They are right in between going back and forth between the two. They are complicated for this very reason, because some things they do and thnk are similar to adults however, its sometimes like a child too. They go back and fourth between the two.
Wednesday, March 30, 2011
The Rise And Fall Of The American Teenager (54 - 108)
Summary
In the next following chapters, I read about how teenagers had some family values and I also read about their independence. Before, in different places back then people used to honor family values more often. They used to do whatever they could to help suppose their families. Teenagers also did for their country and themselves. At young ages as of 12 boys were fighting in the war . Some teenagers had to leave their homes and go out in becoming an apprentice which meant that they were entering a stranger's home to do work for them and be able to learn not only in education but, kind of like a new life. They did this to sort of honor their parents. As an apprentice they had to do whatever the master wanted them to. When I read about these young people getting independence, they talked about the Lowell mills factories and then and there a made a connection to what I had previously learned in history class earlier this year. The factories were the first time women got the chance to work and many of these women where teenage girls. Them being able to work in factories helped their families out where they finally got the chance to do something else out of their homes.
Quote: " the beginning of their teens was the first moment that they fully understood the meaning of their situation",( Hines 98).
Reaction:
Though Thomas Hines was referring to the slaves when he said this when I first thought about this it clicked in my head how true this was. It reminded me of the idea of " coming of age moments" and how young children when they grow up slowly face the reality of the what the world is like.The reason as to why I believe being a teenager is such a difficult part of life is supply because it's when a child finally gets to see what is really going on and is having a hard time to taking it in. Though Thomas says that the idea of being a "teen" was made up by society, I still think that this part of life is a difficult step into a human - being becoming an adult .
In the next following chapters, I read about how teenagers had some family values and I also read about their independence. Before, in different places back then people used to honor family values more often. They used to do whatever they could to help suppose their families. Teenagers also did for their country and themselves. At young ages as of 12 boys were fighting in the war . Some teenagers had to leave their homes and go out in becoming an apprentice which meant that they were entering a stranger's home to do work for them and be able to learn not only in education but, kind of like a new life. They did this to sort of honor their parents. As an apprentice they had to do whatever the master wanted them to. When I read about these young people getting independence, they talked about the Lowell mills factories and then and there a made a connection to what I had previously learned in history class earlier this year. The factories were the first time women got the chance to work and many of these women where teenage girls. Them being able to work in factories helped their families out where they finally got the chance to do something else out of their homes.
Quote: " the beginning of their teens was the first moment that they fully understood the meaning of their situation",( Hines 98).
Reaction:
Though Thomas Hines was referring to the slaves when he said this when I first thought about this it clicked in my head how true this was. It reminded me of the idea of " coming of age moments" and how young children when they grow up slowly face the reality of the what the world is like.The reason as to why I believe being a teenager is such a difficult part of life is supply because it's when a child finally gets to see what is really going on and is having a hard time to taking it in. Though Thomas says that the idea of being a "teen" was made up by society, I still think that this part of life is a difficult step into a human - being becoming an adult .
Tuesday, March 29, 2011
The Rise And Fall Of The American Teenager (1-54)
Summary
So far from what I read in The Rise And Fall Of The American Teenager by Thomas Hine , the author is trying to explain and find out himself as to why teenagers are the way they are and go through what they go through. In the chapters I read, Thomas describes adolescence first as something that everyone has to go through and can not be changed as a part of growing up. However, later he describes it using some of the very different ways certain societies practice a time where teenager or a child reaches social or physical maturity that allows them to be ready for the world they would have to face as an adult. However, Thomas also says that the idea of a "teenager" was made up by society. At the beginning Thomas also describes teenagers as being such a mystery as to what they think and do because of their crazy behaviors. As when he talks about teenagers getting pregnant and killing their new born and also how he talks about kids being in gangs and killing others. From what I've read so far Thomas is giving different reasons in explanations as to what a teenager is , why they act the way they do and what causes it. What I found interesting was how Thomas uses other coming of age books though fiction, to help describe teenagers, one of the books being Catcher In The Rye which was my second Roar book.Quote: "The teenager is a symbol of American's aspirations, the repository of hopes, the one who will realize the American dream. And inevitably, the teenager is a disappointment, whose combination of adult capacities and juvenile irresponsibility sows personal heartbreak and social chaos." ( Hines 8)
Reaction: When I was reading this quote in the introduction of this book, i stopped and realize how true I believed this was. Society as a whole has to views on teenagers one as a positive and the other as a negative. Our society has such high hopes for teenagers in becoming the future however, at the same time they view them negatively as sometimes expecting them to do nothing but, wrong doing.
Wednesday, February 23, 2011
The Lovely Bones (Flim)
Reaction
In the beginning of the movie The Love Bones i seemed to be very much the same. However, later in the end I noticed that they left a lot out and a few differences and changes that are unlike the movie in many ways. While watching the movie I noticed how the light , camera , etc. played an important part in the movie. There was a high angle shot over the ditch which in the end was where Susie's body would be. An important part in the beginning when Susie saved her brother's life the music was first slow when Buckley was first hurt but, when Susie started driving the car it became faster and more so positive. In the part of a movie that when Susie and her grandmother was talking and she had told Susie she'd have a long life their was something like a dissolve but, it was into white shinny light. And when Susie was walking home there was this long shot to show us the watchers that what the surroundings looked like right before she seen Mr.Harvey. Overall the movie was good but, not better than the book. It left out a lot , one major thing would be the mother having an affair with the detective. And also how long the mother was gone , she came back early and left earlier than when she did in the book. It also ended differently and didn't really go into much after her death like the book was explaining what happened 8years after. And another was when Mr.Harvey had killed another girl and they found Susie's charm at the crime. The movie missed out on some major events but, it still kept the concept of what was going on. I still like the book more .
In the beginning of the movie The Love Bones i seemed to be very much the same. However, later in the end I noticed that they left a lot out and a few differences and changes that are unlike the movie in many ways. While watching the movie I noticed how the light , camera , etc. played an important part in the movie. There was a high angle shot over the ditch which in the end was where Susie's body would be. An important part in the beginning when Susie saved her brother's life the music was first slow when Buckley was first hurt but, when Susie started driving the car it became faster and more so positive. In the part of a movie that when Susie and her grandmother was talking and she had told Susie she'd have a long life their was something like a dissolve but, it was into white shinny light. And when Susie was walking home there was this long shot to show us the watchers that what the surroundings looked like right before she seen Mr.Harvey. Overall the movie was good but, not better than the book. It left out a lot , one major thing would be the mother having an affair with the detective. And also how long the mother was gone , she came back early and left earlier than when she did in the book. It also ended differently and didn't really go into much after her death like the book was explaining what happened 8years after. And another was when Mr.Harvey had killed another girl and they found Susie's charm at the crime. The movie missed out on some major events but, it still kept the concept of what was going on. I still like the book more .
The Lovely Bones (2009) Movie Review By A. O. SCOTT
Reaction :
After reading what Scott had to say about the movie it makes a lot of sense as to why people would want to watch he movie and read the book. As he says , "We all like children, and — at least in our capacity as moviegoers, book-club members and consumers of true-life melodrama — we seem to like them best when they’re abused, endangered or dead"(Scott). He's saying that because all these bad things has happened to Susie it's what catches the readers like me attention towards the movie / book. Surprisingly, based on what the person would expect from hearing about the lovely bones it isn't very much depressing as it would seems. Scott said, " the novel is not depressing or assaultive but rather, somewhat perversely, warm, hopeful and even occasionally funny" (Scott). I liked that from what the review has to say about the movie it seems the same as the book. Especially keeping the whole entire concept. I know it does because Scott says "The title of “The Lovely Bones” refers to the relationships among these people that knit together in Susie’s absence" (Scott). This is the whole purpose in the book about how Susie dying even though was a horrible thing to happen but, the fact that it happen for a purpose and brought the people she loved together after taking them apart. Susie's death brought a stronger type of relationship between them , the author calls this bond " the lovely bones ".
After reading what Scott had to say about the movie it makes a lot of sense as to why people would want to watch he movie and read the book. As he says , "We all like children, and — at least in our capacity as moviegoers, book-club members and consumers of true-life melodrama — we seem to like them best when they’re abused, endangered or dead"(Scott). He's saying that because all these bad things has happened to Susie it's what catches the readers like me attention towards the movie / book. Surprisingly, based on what the person would expect from hearing about the lovely bones it isn't very much depressing as it would seems. Scott said, " the novel is not depressing or assaultive but rather, somewhat perversely, warm, hopeful and even occasionally funny" (Scott). I liked that from what the review has to say about the movie it seems the same as the book. Especially keeping the whole entire concept. I know it does because Scott says "The title of “The Lovely Bones” refers to the relationships among these people that knit together in Susie’s absence" (Scott). This is the whole purpose in the book about how Susie dying even though was a horrible thing to happen but, the fact that it happen for a purpose and brought the people she loved together after taking them apart. Susie's death brought a stronger type of relationship between them , the author calls this bond " the lovely bones ".
Sunday, February 20, 2011
The Lovely Bones ( 112 - 328 )
Summary
A lot has happened in the pages I've read. For one they found out that Mr. Harvey was guilty of what happened to Susie because he left one day and never came back. And later on they had found a charm that belonged to Susie was at another murder that Harvey committed. After Susie's mom left everything started to move on and grow up fast. Susie wasn't forgotten. Lindsey and Samuel got engaged and Buckley came older. When Buckley was telling his dad to choose between him or Susie he got s heart attack.. This brought everyone together over worrying about Jack , the father Susie's mom finally came back after 8years of being away from her family. Around this time Harvey came back in town. When he had passed Ruth, something had happened and Susie soul was inside Ruth's body. Susie didn't want to waste her time chasing after him so instead she spent her time with Ray that she always wish she could. But, her time on earth was very short. When everyone was together at her old home now, she realized her death had brought them closer and that's when she left to the other heaven. In the end of the book her sister has a baby daughter and names it after her.
Quote : "These were the lovely bones that had grown around my absence: the connections-sometimes tenuous, sometimes made at great cost, but often magnificent-that happened after I was gone. And I began to see things in a way that let me hold the world without me in it. The events that my death wrought were merely the bones of a body that would become whole at some unpredictable time in the future. The price of what I came to see as this miraculous body had been my life" (Sebold 320).
Reaction: As soon as I read this paragraph in this story I knew it has great importance. Not only does it say the title of the book in it but, its the turning point of Susie finally excepting her death. She doesn't see it as something so terrible that happened and how bad it was. She know sees it as something that happened that actually led to the connections of her family and friends. She'll always be remember because he life was important. But, her purpose was to bring them closer. Yes, it was bad that she had to die so young and wasn't able to live her life but, she now has to accept this and see the positive to her death. This she could let go of wanting to be back on Earth and let it go because it was for the better. Susie needed to realize this so that she could move on to the bigger heaven.
A lot has happened in the pages I've read. For one they found out that Mr. Harvey was guilty of what happened to Susie because he left one day and never came back. And later on they had found a charm that belonged to Susie was at another murder that Harvey committed. After Susie's mom left everything started to move on and grow up fast. Susie wasn't forgotten. Lindsey and Samuel got engaged and Buckley came older. When Buckley was telling his dad to choose between him or Susie he got s heart attack.. This brought everyone together over worrying about Jack , the father Susie's mom finally came back after 8years of being away from her family. Around this time Harvey came back in town. When he had passed Ruth, something had happened and Susie soul was inside Ruth's body. Susie didn't want to waste her time chasing after him so instead she spent her time with Ray that she always wish she could. But, her time on earth was very short. When everyone was together at her old home now, she realized her death had brought them closer and that's when she left to the other heaven. In the end of the book her sister has a baby daughter and names it after her.
Quote : "These were the lovely bones that had grown around my absence: the connections-sometimes tenuous, sometimes made at great cost, but often magnificent-that happened after I was gone. And I began to see things in a way that let me hold the world without me in it. The events that my death wrought were merely the bones of a body that would become whole at some unpredictable time in the future. The price of what I came to see as this miraculous body had been my life" (Sebold 320).
Reaction: As soon as I read this paragraph in this story I knew it has great importance. Not only does it say the title of the book in it but, its the turning point of Susie finally excepting her death. She doesn't see it as something so terrible that happened and how bad it was. She know sees it as something that happened that actually led to the connections of her family and friends. She'll always be remember because he life was important. But, her purpose was to bring them closer. Yes, it was bad that she had to die so young and wasn't able to live her life but, she now has to accept this and see the positive to her death. This she could let go of wanting to be back on Earth and let it go because it was for the better. Susie needed to realize this so that she could move on to the bigger heaven.
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